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Made in Japan ¿Qué Significa? (Seiko y Normativa Japonesa)
Para que no se pierda la info en un hilo de "homenajes" Dejo por aquí una interesante respuesta de Seiko acerca de un Sumo "made in japan" cuya caja proviene de "China".
Aporte del compañero JoepeteJokla en el foro http://www.thewatchsite.com
"I have received the answer from Seiko today:
"First of all, we would like to inform you that the marking of "JAPAN" or "MADE IN JAPAN" is in absolute compliance with
The Japan Clock and Watch Association's standards. Although it means that we manufacture our products in absolute
compliance with the standards, the standards also allow for the fact that certain components of our watches may not be
fully sourced in Japan.
Due to the above reason, the case with the marking of CHINA is used for the watch. In addition, a number of variables,
including production efficiency, go into determining the manufacturing location of our watches as well as watch parts.
Even if the production site was once decided, it might occasionally change due to the different variables.
We apologize for being unable to provide any further information on this matter. However, whether the marking
"CHINA” is engraved on certain watch parts or not, you will agree that our watches are of impeccable quality.
We hope this answer your inquiry, even if it is not the answer you were hoping for.
With best regards,
Tomomi KAMBE, CS Dept.
SEIKO Watch Corporation"
Not a word about the scratches INSIDE the caseback. Maybe that is why the watch can still be called of "impeccable quality" ... :image:
I am sorry, but as much as I love Seiko, I am a bit disappointed about all this ... image:
__________________
All the best,
John"
Complemento con info sobre las gamas caras, parece que tampoco se garantiza la procedencia 100% japonesa:
Actualizo con información mas concreta y normativa:
No pretende ser una comparación con otras legislaciones ni mucho menos, solo es para que conste y se pueda complementar con mas información.
Para que no se pierda la info en un hilo de "homenajes" Dejo por aquí una interesante respuesta de Seiko acerca de un Sumo "made in japan" cuya caja proviene de "China".
Aporte del compañero JoepeteJokla en el foro http://www.thewatchsite.com
"I have received the answer from Seiko today:
"First of all, we would like to inform you that the marking of "JAPAN" or "MADE IN JAPAN" is in absolute compliance with
The Japan Clock and Watch Association's standards. Although it means that we manufacture our products in absolute
compliance with the standards, the standards also allow for the fact that certain components of our watches may not be
fully sourced in Japan.
Due to the above reason, the case with the marking of CHINA is used for the watch. In addition, a number of variables,
including production efficiency, go into determining the manufacturing location of our watches as well as watch parts.
Even if the production site was once decided, it might occasionally change due to the different variables.
We apologize for being unable to provide any further information on this matter. However, whether the marking
"CHINA” is engraved on certain watch parts or not, you will agree that our watches are of impeccable quality.
We hope this answer your inquiry, even if it is not the answer you were hoping for.
With best regards,
Tomomi KAMBE, CS Dept.
SEIKO Watch Corporation"
Not a word about the scratches INSIDE the caseback. Maybe that is why the watch can still be called of "impeccable quality" ... :image:
I am sorry, but as much as I love Seiko, I am a bit disappointed about all this ... image:
__________________
All the best,
John"
Complemento con info sobre las gamas caras, parece que tampoco se garantiza la procedencia 100% japonesa:
Un interesante hilo donde comentan que Grand Seiko y MM 300 no son 100% japoneses: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/where-seiko-watches-are-really-made-a-juicy-mistake.1084156/
"SBDX001 (MarineMaster 300m) - Raw Parts mainly from Japan and Malaysia, MIM, RA with final oversight by Japanese technicians in Japan (bet this will surprise many as the 8L35 in this watch is robot assembled)"
"Grand Seiko
Almost all the Grand Seikos are made from Japanese or Malaysia parts, although some of the quartz movements are made in Malaysia. They are all assembled in Japan by Japanese technicians. Most are hand assembled. The models which receive the most attention are the Hi-Beat models and next are the Spring Drive models."
Hay bastante info en el hilo.
Actualizo con información mas concreta y normativa:
Algo mas concreto ya referente a la normativa "made in Japan"
"The Japanese law defines country of origin
as the country where substantive change was performed. For watches, the substantive changes are defined as
movement assembly"
"The percentage of local material is not specified. This means the country of origin is the country where the movement was assembled. Therefore a watch with a movement assembled in Japan can be 'Made in Japan' in the viewpoint of the law."
"All of the parts could be from China but if the 'substantive change' or in the case of watches 'movement assembly' is carried out in Japan, it can lawfully be labelled Made in Japan. A watch with 100% Chinese made parts can be classed as Made in Japan"
Y aquí normativa pura y dura: http://www.asianlii.org/apec/other/agrmt/arooj213/
"the country of origin is defined as "in cases where two or more countries are involved in the production of the goods, the country in which the last substantial transformation which confers a new character to the goods has taken place"
Creo que ya queda bastante documentado el tema
No pretende ser una comparación con otras legislaciones ni mucho menos, solo es para que conste y se pueda complementar con mas información.
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