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Planisferios Celestes en ESPLENDIDO

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Suelen ser extraordinarios los relojes que incluyen la carta celeste entre sus funciones, bien porque ésta se suma a un conjunto impresionante de complicaciones o bien por la precisión de esa representación.




En el pasado, los astros jugaron un papel determinante en la orientación marítima y terreste del hombre. La Luna, en su fases menguante y creciente, facilitaba una aproximación a los puntos cardinales. Pero la observación de la posición de los otros astros en el cielo era mucho más efectiva. Las estrellas indican la ubicación de los puntos cardinales, la latitud en la que estamos –ya que dependiendo de ésta se ven estrellas distintas en el cenit– y la longitud siempre que se conozca la hora exacta. Con esa finalidad orientativa se crearon mapas de la esfera estelar. Para facilitar el reconocimiento y memorización de las estrellas, se agruparon convencionalmente en constelaciones, trazando lineas imaginarias entre las que suponían más cercanas (en esos tiempos creían en una bóveda celeste perfectamente esférica en la que estaban todos los astros en el límite del universo). La carta celeste más antiguo que se conoce es el del astrónomo persa Abuuū Rayhan al-Biruni del siglo X. El planisferio es una representación de la bóveda en un plano. Está formada por dos discos que giran sobre el mismo eje. El inferior tiene dibujadas todas las estrellas observables en el hemisferio. La ventana elíptica del disco superior permite ver las estrellas visibles esa fecha y oculta las restantes. Cada carta celeste es diseñada para una latitud concreta, aunque puede utilizarse igualmente, sin diferencias perceptibles, en un rango de latitudes entre +5º y -5º.
En la era del GPS ya nadie se orienta con las estrellas. La utilidad práctica de una carta celeste en un reloj es más bien escasa, pero añade la belleza de una complicación mecánica muy singular. En general, no es una complicación muy difícil (es un disco que rota en sentido contrario al de las agujas del reloj), pero son magníficos los relojes que la incluyen:

  • Patek Philippe 6102P: utiliza un sistema de discos de zafiro superpuestos que giran a diferentes velocidades creando además un sensacional efecto de profundidad. El fondo celeste está representado por un disco azul integrado a una rueda de 279 dientes que indica el movimiento angular de la Luna. Esta misma rueda acciona el rodaje que muestra las fases de la Luna en una ventanilla circular. El tercer disco, de zafiro transparente, incorpora una rueda de 356 dientes que presenta en su cara superior la carta de las estrellas y en la inferior, en un segundo plano, la Vía Láctea.
  • IWC Portugues Sidérale Scafusia. Es el reloj mecánico más complicado creado por IWC. En su reverso muestra muestra una carta celeste con el el horizonte, las coordenadas geográficas, el tiempo solar, tiempo sideral, la salida y la puesta de sol, así como el día, la noche y el crepúsculo.
  • Vladimir de Vacheron Constantin. Esta creación del servicio Atelier Cabinotiers con numerosas complicaciones, basada en el Tour de l’Ile, incluye un planisferio celeste de precisión del hemisferio norte.
  • Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication. complicaciones de tres familias diferentes: las indicaciones astronómicas (como el calendario perpetuo, tiempo sideral y el tiempo solar), la indicación sonora y el tourbillón volante que describe su evolución sobre una esfera que representa la carta celeste del hemisferio.
  • Jaeger-LeCoultre Rendez-Vous Celestial. La manufactura de Le Sentier es una de las pocas que está apostando por la creación de relojes femeninos con complicaciones, como este lanzado hace dos años que incluye un planisferio celeste.





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Pues vamos a poner esto perdido, porque yo también.:drool:
 
Es que estas fotos, no deberian ponerse.
Noveno mandamiento: No desearas el reloj de tu projimo...
 
Qué Bonitos! Me quiere sonar que había un Citizen Campaola de este estilo tb precioso y algo más económico que estos que muestras.
 
Efectivamente, sin palabras.

Simplemente extraordinarios, todos y cada uno de ellos.

Y gracias por el post :-)

Sent on the go from my mobile device
 
De otro mundo.
 
Bella complicación. saludos
 
preciosos gracias por las fotos
Saludos
 
  • #10
Hermosos, simplemente hermosos.

Saludos
 
  • #11
Que relojes mas bonitos.
Saludos.
 
  • #12
Sin palabras me he quedado. Cualquier cuenta corriente de un "mortal" se vería cancelada con uno sólo de ellos.
 
  • #13
Qué maravilla. Gracias por las fotos y detalle
 
  • #14
¡¡Guau!! Qué maravillas. Me ha gustado especialmente el JLC que aparece en último lugar; el de mujer, no me ha gustado:pardon:
 
  • #15
Da gusto ver estas obras de arte. Son el escalón más alto de este vicio que tenemos, sueños inalcanzables que nos hacen disfrutar con solo verlos en una foto. Gracias por compartirlo.
 
  • #16
Yo añadiría este Citizen Astrodea más económico (eso sí, es cuarzo):

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  • #17
Tan hermosos como caros, pero es una delicia el verlos. Gracias por enseñarnoslos.
 
  • #18
Vaya maravillas. Auténticas obras de arte.:dribble:
 
  • #20
Absolutamente impresionantes.
 
  • #21
Yo añadiría este Citizen Astrodea más económico (eso sí, es cuarzo):

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Aqui una review del bicho sacada de WUS:

Of all the watches that caught my attention over the years, none quite had the mystery surrounding them like the Citizen Astrodea. I waited for several years before buying one, in part because I was hoping Citizen would come out with an Eco-drive version. I had decided I don't want more battery powered watches.


When I learned a bit more about the watch, I realized that the need for clarity on the printed metal dial would make it hard to use the translucent plastic found on solar watches. I searched the Forum and could only find one thread on this watch, in the high-end quartz forum. There was some good information there, but I still felt puzzled.


I figured a novice review could help, for those few people who might be curious about this little instrument. I'll give a good short-cut and some explanation, without using all the astronomical terminology. I might have understood some of those terms 30 years ago, but I forgot enough that I needed to start from scratch to understand this thing.
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First impressions:


There are several versions of this watch, three latitudes (50°N, 35°N, 35°S), two sizes (38mm, 42mm) and two face colors (blue, yellow). I chose the 42mm yellow face for 35° north, a good match to my location at 37°N, in the San Francisco Bay area. The watch has sapphire crystal, on a low profile stainless case with a pop-top back to swap the silver oxide battery every 2-3 years.


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The Astrodea arrived in its blue clamshell box, with pillow, Japanese instruction book, a 10x loupe, and additional English instructions provided by the USA eBay seller (Watchdesign.com). It came on 22mm solid link bracelet, decent quality, but I promptly replaced the bracelet with a shell cordovan strap out of personal preference.


My initial impressions of the build quality were slightly mixed. No flaws, it just didn't quite have the "wow" factor in terms of materials, that the amazingly detailed face had led me to expect. It is rather lightweight, which I enjoy, but I realize I also like that subtle feeling of heft from a thicker-walled case. The star chart dial and the chapter ring are made from die-cut sheet metal, micro-printed with all the elements of an astronomy device. The resolution is impressive. However, the color of the face is basically light yellow, and I couldn't help but think of the Japanese metal robot toys from childhood. That metal robot association takes away some of the sense of a precision instrument.


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Regarding the color, I like the yellow dial because it's much easier for me to read than the midnight blue dial. However, I think I prefer the over-all appearance of the dark blue. The constellation lines get lost on the dark blue background, while everything shows up very clearly on yellow. The yellow does not have the sophistication, though, it looks more like a scientific instrument and less like jewelry.


During my efforts to learn how to set the watch, I came to feel that it is not quite the precision instrument that its face implies. The star chart dial has a certain amount of mechanical play from the gear teeth, especially as it tracks the hour and minute hands when I change time manually. (I think for this reason the instructions often mention moving the hands past the desired point, then returning back, while setting.) The three position crown is quite small, and it sometimes shows strong resistance when clicking to the outer position to set the time. On the contrary, the middle click for setting the star chart is quite subtle, and often I am not sure if I have pulled it to the correct spot. Hopefully these movements will smooth out a bit with use.


These are minor quibbles from a perfectionist, though. The main attraction on the Astrodea is the incredibly detailed star chart on its dial, and its unusual ability to track sidereal time on the retrograde dial, alongside solar time.
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A few definitions:


I had to remind myself of some terms before I could understand the instructions. I hope this review can fill a need for more simple basic instructions for the watch. I'll risk being less precise here, for added simplicity. Many thanks to Wikipedia, which provided some of the following, quoted or paraphrased (Sidereal time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)


Sidereal Time: measured relative to the stars rather than the sun. Because we turn once around the sun each year, that counts as one extra rotation relative to the stars, so we have 366 sidereal days in one year of 365 solar days. A sidereal day is approximately 23 hours, 56 minutes, 4.091 seconds (23.93447 hours or 0.99726957 mean solar days.)


(Wiki further explains: A solar day is, therefore, nearly 4 minutes longer than a sidereal day. Because the Earth orbits the Sun once a year, the sidereal time at any one place at midnight will be about four minutes later each night, until, after a year has passed, one additional sidereal day has transpired compared to the number of solar days that have gone by.)


Meridian: In the sky, the meridian is an imaginary line going from north to south that goes through the point directly overhead, or the zenith. On the Citizen Astrodea, the meridian line goes vertically between 12 & 6 (it is located on the clear transparency that stays fixed while the star chart turns underneath it, counterclockwise, at sidereal time.)


Solar Mean: the line that the sun appears to trace as it "moves" through the sky.
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The dial:


The face of the Astrodea shows the information defined above, along with over a thousand stars and major constellations, on three layers of the watch face. Of course, it's still a watch, so it has standard hour, minute and seconds hands. The hands do not have lume, unfortunately, but they have a nice teal blue color that shows up clearly on the gold dial. (The blue dial version has white-tipped hands, I do not know if they have lume on their tips.)


The uppermost portion of the dial is a fixed chapter ring around the outside edge, with squares marking the 12 hours, and small hatches for minutes, above the names and numbers for the twelve months. At the lower edge of this ring is a very finely divided track which marks the days of each month. Slightly thicker lines mark the days numbered 1,11,21.


The next layer down on the dial consists of a transparent overlay that does not move, showing: the vertical meridian line between 12 & 6; the oval horizon line at 35° latitude marked with directions of the compass; an outer ring marking the twilight hours when a glow still occurs after sunset or before sunrise; and declination lines going up to the zenith overhead (the sky-chart equivalent of longitude and latitude.) Inside of the horizon ring marks the visible sky, and outside of this ring marks the stars that are hidden behind the horizon.


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(Gearing for the watch face)


The main face of the dial shows the planisphere disk, and it moves in a counterclockwise direction, marking the sidereal day. It turns once every 23 hours, 56 minutes, 3.9 seconds (This would give a built-in error of about .2 seconds per day, probably limited by crystal oscillation rate and gear ratios, and is smaller error than the rated accuracy of the quartz movement at ±20 sec/month.) It moves counterclockwise because it shows the relative apparent motion of the sky opposite to the earth's clockwise rotation. This main dial has a huge amount of information packed onto it, including major constellations, visible objects of magnitude 4.5 and brighter, their different color types, and the sidereal hour markers around the edge. It also shows the solar mean disk marked with the numbers of the month. I found this solar display to be the easiest way to set the watch.
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An easy way to set the star chart:


I must confess that I got a bit confused trying to understand the different approaches to using and setting the planisphere disk. Because it doesn't turn at the same rate as the 12 hour hands, it soon becomes clear that we need a calibrated start point, so the dates make sense along the edge as sidereal time slips earlier by 4 minutes each day. You can do this by calculating the longitude where you are standing, subtract 4 minutes per degree from 0° longitude (Greenwich) then find the correct settings for January 2 of the year. That gets really complicated.


I found a little gem hidden away in the technical manual for the Citizen 4391 watch caliber. It explains a short cut using the date markers on the Solar Mean disk and published sunrise information for your current location. Here are simple steps:


1) Look up the sunrise time for your city, for today's date. Websites will show this, as will the weather page of a newspaper (remember those?)


2) Pull the crown all the way out, and set the hands to reflect the time of sunrise. In my example below I use July 11, 2011, with sunrise at 5:57 AM.


3) Look closely at the light blue Solar Mean disk, and you will see numbers from 1-12 corresponding to the months, and gaps in the line, between the month numbers, corresponding to dates 11 and 21.


4) Push the crown all the way back in, and then pull out slightly to the middle position to rotate the star disk. Rotate the disk counterclockwise until today's date on the Solar Mean lines up to the Eastern horizon line, corresponding to sunrise.


5) Pull the crown back out all the way to time-setting position, and back the minute hand up by about 20-30 minutes, then move the time forward again, back to sunrise (5:57 in the example.)


6) Check the solar mean to make sure it didn't slip after this time adjustment. Repeat the above procedure if it did slip. Once satisfied, move the time ahead to the current time on the same day.


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You can see from the pictures below that once I set the correct sunrise time for my date, I can track the position of the sun from the watch dial by tracking the motion of today's date, on the Solar Mean disk, as the watch face turns. At noon, you can see that 7-11 (July 11) crosses the meridian line close to the zenith. Later, at around 2:15 in the afternoon, it has moved towards the western horizon, and it should cross the sunset line (WNW) around 8:31 PM.


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As the seasons progress, I will see these times change as the earth's position changes relative to the sun. In the meantime I can locate today's date on the outer chapter ring, and learn what the current sidereal time is relative to UTC. That would be useful if I wanted to calibrate a telescope, for example, or decide when to send a satellite into space.


I hope this didn't completely bore you. I thought a resource like this might prove helpful for those nutters like me who enjoy these sorts of toys.


All the best - Robert








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  • #22
Imagino que con el reloj en la mano será más fácil seguir las instrucciones para calibrarlo, porque no me he enterado de nada (y no es cuestión del idioma).

Aún así muy buen análisis, gracias por encontrarlo y compartirlo.
 
  • #23
Imagino que con el reloj en la mano será más fácil seguir las instrucciones para calibrarlo, porque no me he enterado de nada (y no es cuestión del idioma).

Aún así muy buen análisis, gracias por encontrarlo y compartirlo.

Jajajaja:D Me ha pasado exactamente lo mismo: me he leído entera la review de WUS (y tp tengo problemas con el idioma) y me he quedado con cara de haba:huh:. Aún así, yo también agradezco al compi que haya compartido el análisis de ese reloj tan chulo. Aunque no he entendido las instrucciones, me ha gustado mucho leerlo y ver las distintas fotos.
 
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